How should Christians and non-believers think about family life and the state? With Peter Saunders (CEO, CMF), Tarjei Gilje (journalist, Dagen), Paul Susman (Legal officer, European Comission), Einar C. Salvesen (Psychologist, Columbia Consulting Ltd.) and Adam Szabados (pastor, Evangelical Church Veszprém). Recorded in Wisla, Poland, during ELF 2016.